Heard At Meetings
When I first walked through the doors of AA, I told them that I was different. The response I received was, AA has a wrench to fit every nut! That was in 1983.... One Day At A Time!
"It is not what I SEE!!!But what I THINK when I LOOK!!!"
One by one, two by two,
Show a little love is all you do.
In God's world his will be done,
Yet, until we love, we're all alone.
Help a neighbor, lend a hand.
Show a smile and understand.
God wants everyone to be
full of love and charity.
Don't hate the day.
Don't raise your hand.
Don't harm yourself.
Don't spoil this land.
Come the morn kneel down and pray.
Seek his guidance through your day.
With heart and mind and spirit one,
Forevermore thy will be done.
One by one ,two by two
Show a little love is all you do.
written years ago by the late Berle Ives
The speaker said his sponsor told him, "The best definition of a good sponsor/sponsee relationship is when the sponsor stays sober."
Drunk in a hole
A drunk fell in a hole and couldn't get out. A businessman went
by. The drunk called out for help. The businessman threw him
some money and told him get yourself a ladder. But the drunk
could not find a ladder in this hole he was in.
A doctor walked by. The drunk said, \"Help, I can't get out.\" The
doctor gave him drugs and said, \"Take this, it will relieve the
pain.\" The drunk said thanks, but when the pills ran out, he was
still in the hole.
A renowned psychiatrist rode by and heard the drunks cries for
help. He stopped and said, \"How did you get there? Were you born
there? Were you put there by your parents? Tell me about yourself,
it will alleviate your sense of loneliness.\" So the drunk talked
with him for an hour, then the psychiatrist had to leave, but he
said he'd be back next week. The drunk thanked him, but he was
still in his hole.
A priest came by the drunk called for help. The priest gave him a
Bible and said I'll say a prayer for you. He got down on his knees
and prayed for the drunk, then left. The drunk was very grateful,
he read the Bible, but he was still stuck in that hole.
A recovered alcoholic happened to be passing by.the drunk cried
out, \"Hey, help me, I'm stuck in this hole.\" Right away, the
recovered alcoholic jumped in the hole with him. The drunk said,
\"What are you doing? Now we're both stuck here.\" But the
recovered alcoholic said, \"It's okay, I've been here before, I
know the way out.\"
Love it :)
I like your story. But once an alcoholic you are always an alcoholic that is recovering. The only way to totally be recovered is to be dead.
New member: "HOW DO I BECOME AND OLD TIMER?"
Sponsor; "IT IS SIMPLE. DON'T DRINK. DON'T DIE!!!!"
A man asked his sponsor, "Hey George, how do I become an old timer?"
George said, "Don't drink. Don't die!!!
Be dead, not what my Big Book says.
“We of Alcoholics Anonymous are more than one hundred men and women who have recovered from a seemingly hopeless state of mind and body. To show other alcoholics precisely how we have recovered is the main purpose of this book.”
I joined them thirty four years ago and have remained symptom-free (sober) since. I could choose to end my recovery but it doesn't mean that I don't have it.
Recovering. Recovered. Words. Just words but I choose to be consistent with those written in the Big Book, that's all.
A topic continuously pontificated about. The confusion is based around an implied meaning. The Big Book never states we have recovered from Alcoholism or that we are recovered Alcoholics.
However, it does clearly state "we have recovered from a seemingly hopeless state of mind and body".
"To show other alcoholics precisely how we have recovered is the main purpose of this book" is referring to the process used, AKA 12 steps, to achieve a spiritual awaking as THE result of these steps
A detailed explanation of how "we have recovered from a seemingly hopeless state of mind and body".
By introducing oneself as a recovered alcoholic, implies past tense, finite, having an ending. To my knowledge, this is a disease with no cure, only a solution for daily living. Therefore we can never be recovered Alcoholics, but we can be recovered. (so long as it's understood that the rest of the sentence refers only to the state of mind, not the disease)
This is a program of Action One Day at a Time. Recovering implies action, in the moment, reminding us daily that we have to be vigilant.
I've always been told this is Alcoholism Not Alcoholwasim
I have seen far too many Alcoholics die or commit suicide because they felt they were recovered Alcoholics.
do you want to be in recovery or recovered? the recovery line of thought comes from treatment jargon. My big book says "recovered" at least 15 times. you can be in recovery, I have recovered from a hopeless state of mind and body. I will stay recovered as long as I do what's required to maintain my daily reprieve.
Actually, I take back what I said about recovery, in the forward to the second edition, it talks about whats vital to "premanent" recovery!
"I like your story. But once an alcoholic you are always an alcoholic that is recovering. The only way to totally be recovered is to be dead."
Totally false. Apparently you haven't read the Big Book, which says we are never cured but can recover.
Page XIII: "We of Alcoholics Anonymous are more than one hundred men and women who have RECOVERED from a seemingly hopeless state of mind and body."
Page XXV: "This man and over one hundred others appear to have RECOVERED."
The word is used on ten more pages in the first eleven chapters, I'll let you decide whether you want to find them or not.
There is no cure for the common cold. I have RECOVERED from more colds than I can count, but if I do certain things I can probably avoid catching another.
This story tells it all, newcomers as well as old timers should read this message.
Terrific tale. Thank you.
Excellent message. Thanks.
I spoke to my sponser about prescription medications. He said "As long as their prescribed for you by a doctor and you need them it's fine" I have several ailments for which medical marijuana is prescribed and I'm in a state where it's legal to procure. Is smoking the medicinal herb meaning I've gone "back out" there?
I was told be honest with your doctor and yourself. I would ask myself if I'm exaggerating my symptoms. As long as you're honest with yourself and your doctor. Are following doctor's orders not yours or anyone else's than you're acting in a sober manner. I wouldn't share your medical details at meetings or with anyone other than people who you trust and have your best interests at heart. My husband is 35 years sober and has several medical conditions that cause him a lot of pain and require pain meds. Too many people who have never had anything like this in their lives have too many opinions, none of them good.
I had a pal in AA. He visited a group very far away from his one home group. He shared that he had a mental illness and that his psychiatrist prescribed medication for it. He said that he was on this medication. Also he said that he was a practising Catholic and that he had a Jesuit priest as a Spiritual Director.
At the end of the meeting a total stranger called him aside and said to him, 'You are fooling yourself because you are chewing your booze, And by the way, you suffer from another disease called Roman catholocism.
I said to him, "Your relationship with your psychiatrist concerns only you, as does your practice of Roman catholcism.
There is great wisdom in the Preamble. It tells us what AA is about. It also tells us about and the topics that we exclude from our sharing at a meeting.
This poor man was upset by what he heard from a total stranger. The irony is simply this. The total stranger probably thought that he was giving the other man, good sound advice!
We had a friend who went off his psych meds because some fool told him he wasn't sober while taking them. He was drunk and then dead in a week because he could not deal with the horrible symptoms without medication.
On the other hand, I do need to be vigilant when Doc's prescribe for me. I do not accept prescriptions for anything with alcohol or narcotics. And some of them say "just take it as prescribed and you'll be fine," No, I won't be fine. My doc has to understand alcoholism and addiction or he would be dangerous to me.
If I had to try to live with horrible anxiety or pain, I would be in a tough spot. But I would not take the advice of someone who obviously had no training to deal with my medical problems.
And criticising your church? No!
I pray for the other people that might be given this terrible advice.
The young man spoke with great speed a diatribe of crictisms about people, places and things and of course AA.
He stopped for a breath and his observant sponsor humourously quipped, "I think that you are just another rebel without a pause!!!"
The young man laughed and asked, "Why did you say that?"
I was like that young man myself once upon a time, and I can still be to this day too!!!
As long as you don't abuse it your fine. However I couldn't use it it if the Doctor prescribed it for me because I'm multiple-addicted. This includes pills for mental ills. Experience taught me that if I have a problem that requires further help I take it, but if it cripples it's another excuse to use something to numb the pain aka escape from reality. However the best experience I have had was working thru these difficult times with a professional, sponsor, or my higher power. Right now I'm currently dealing with a lot of problems family and work. I found out today it's my attitude. I was told by my boss this morning, I broke down in tears, walked away, and accepted the truth. I may leave the job or I may not, but in the end it's what I do with my attitude. Remember to change the attitude into gratitude.
To thy own self be true!
What better place to start to build your recovery on than on rock bottom. EM
Yeah! it says rock bottom, not sponge bottom lol
My ROCK BOTTOM became my FOUNDATION STONE for my SOBER LIFE!!!
AA taught me to see things in another way. I now see my rock bottom and the foundatiMVjaLon stone of my new sober life.
"What better foundation to build your recovery on than on rock bottom." EM
You can't become a car by sitting in a garage.
12345 I have seen numerous alcoholics get sober by
sitting in AA meetings. And they died sober, never drinking
again. It is almost like osmosis. True, some members make it
difficult for themselves and others, by constant work.
Faith without works is dead they say. But all the works in
the world is of little value without faith. ANONYMOUS
I discovered that I was allergic to alcohol. When I stopped drinking and I could clearly see this allergy.
I was also allergic to reality(without alcohol in my system!!!)
So 12 steps came to my rescue in this area of my life. I am indeed blessed by the message of AA.
"The monkey is off your back but the circus is still in town"
"I try to stay out of my head it's a bad neighborhood"
The greatest use of the English language in my own family circle is for me to say nothing!!!( from time to time of course!!!)
Heard at a meeting........if you spot it....you got it...if it makes you mad,you got it bad !,,
1/...I cannot change the past!
2/...I cannot change the truth!
3/...I cannot change another person.
I remember how much people used to bother me, especially the he said, she said about me, telling me how I should do things, and all the other stuff. I laugh today when I hear someone else who says their bothered by another individual or people. I'm my own self and know who I am today, I love life; and what others have to say about me makes me think wow I rent space in someone else's head. I tell those who are bothered by others life's too short to worry what others say. I know when someone talks about me, I think too I know who I am and it's ok that others don't like my opinion. Who said everyone has to like me? I don't like everyone, I stick to live and let live.
This message is for all those who get what I hear in the meetings, hope it helps:)
You can't teach what you don't know
You can't lead where you don't go
You can't be what you are not
You can't give away what you aint got!
Sponsee texted me - "The Road to Happy Destiny" is bumpy!"
"We shall be with you in the fellowship of the spirit,
and you will surely meet some of us as you TRUDGE the road
of happy destiny. May God bless you and keep you-
until then." Life is in the journey. We travel the road OF
happy destiny: not TO happy destiny. There are indeed
"bumps in the road" for most of us. ANONYMOUS
When I was 16 my priest said to me unless I change I'll be dead or in jail by age 30. Oddly enough I am 34 and quit drinking at 29. I did not realize the strange connection until 6 months ago. God does work in strange ways.
It is simple to climb Mount Everest. Go to the bottom and climb up one step at a time! It is that simple!
But it is not easy!!!
God puts people in our path in life for a reason, wether good or bad. All people, places, and things can either teach us or destroy us. It took me a long time to realize this. With humility and wisdom, we strive in life. Good for you that you seen this, surely You have humility and wisdom.
A good day is when everything goes good for you and at the end of the day you are sober. A great day is when everything goes horribly wrong and at the end of the day you are sober.
Some times thats hard to believe.