Heard At Meetings
Did you notice in the Big Book that there is no Chapter called INTO FEELING!!! or INTO THINKING!!!
There is a Chapter called INTO ACTION!!!
Stuck at the house really need to get to a meeting soon
we're all sick even those that are not alclholics
give up the fight and pick up a white, 30 days and 3000 nights,90 days the blood starts coming back in the alcohol stream, 6mos. mellow yellow its ok to be mellow, 90days growing green if you're not growing you'er going, and the sweet covenant blue.
When I took the Tird Step, I put myself under NEW MANAGEMENT
I know I will die an alcoholic , but not from alcohalism
Heard someone with 30 days of sobriety share that "this is so easy i do not know why I hav'nt done it before". At first i was going straight to oh yeah keep coming back and you will see how easy this is then i realized that it is easy I make it difficult with my magnifying mind. Trust God clean house do not drink alcohol not matter what serve others one day at a time. So even though i may have decades of time her 30 days taught me to Keep it Simple sweetie!'love it
I printed a number of bookmarks and left them around the table.
We share our experience –
“What I think…..” Your thinking
“I think what we do……” Your analysis
“I think what people should do…” Your advice
“What I should do…” Your uncommitted speculation
“What I do is….” Your experience
“What I have done…” Your experience
“When … happens, I feel….” Your experience
“What I read in the Big Book….” Our (shared) experience
Can't find an online aa meeting. I'm going to end up a bigger mess
If you cannot find ONLINE AA MEETING why not consider ringing or meeting another AA member. I learned a long time ago in Ireland that wehre 2 or 3 or more alcoholics meet that is is an AA MEETING!!! It is not an AA GROUP.
We meet in planes, trains and automobiles, in submarines in war situaations as well. In jail, hospitals, in rehab and on street corners.
You are not a mess at all, you are an alcoholic like me, trying to live one day at a time with the critch of alcohol.
Don't berate yourself, you are doing well, you are sharing in the Grapevine, and as they say, your sharing will go viral, all over the world! So thanks for your very hoest sharing. God bless.
There are some good apps out there, the one I like is called "recovery chat " and has some good support from your peers. It doesn't replace face to face meetings but is another good tool for your toolbox.
Go to aaintergroup.org for a list of online groups and meetings.
Correction - that's aa-intergroup.org for online meetings.
Early in my sobriety, before the advent of computers, cell phones, etc, I was in an area with no AA meetings. I was asked two questions by the person on the other end of the phone like:
"Do you have a Big Book?
My answer: Yes.
Do you have a Higher Power?
I'm not sure.
Use your Big Book and my Higher Power and you'll be all right."
If you don't have a Big Book you can find one on line, it had detailed instructions on how to stay sober without meetings.
And if you don't have a Higher Power of your own you can use the one I've been using for over forty years.
Heard in a meeting that: Bill W was asked by reporter to summarize AA in 10 words or less. Bill responded "Don't drink, be kind."
I've tried to document the quote attributed to Bill W, without success. I'll keep trying. In the meantime,
DON'T DRINK, BE KIND.
When I first walked through the doors of AA, I told them that I was different. The response I received was, AA has a wrench to fit every nut! That was in 1983.... One Day At A Time!
"It is not what I SEE!!!But what I THINK when I LOOK!!!"
One by one, two by two,
Show a little love is all you do.
In God's world his will be done,
Yet, until we love, we're all alone.
Help a neighbor, lend a hand.
Show a smile and understand.
God wants everyone to be
full of love and charity.
Don't hate the day.
Don't raise your hand.
Don't harm yourself.
Don't spoil this land.
Come the morn kneel down and pray.
Seek his guidance through your day.
With heart and mind and spirit one,
Forevermore thy will be done.
One by one ,two by two
Show a little love is all you do.
written years ago by the late Berle Ives
The speaker said his sponsor told him, "The best definition of a good sponsor/sponsee relationship is when the sponsor stays sober."
Drunk in a hole
A drunk fell in a hole and couldn't get out. A businessman went
by. The drunk called out for help. The businessman threw him
some money and told him get yourself a ladder. But the drunk
could not find a ladder in this hole he was in.
A doctor walked by. The drunk said, \"Help, I can't get out.\" The
doctor gave him drugs and said, \"Take this, it will relieve the
pain.\" The drunk said thanks, but when the pills ran out, he was
still in the hole.
A renowned psychiatrist rode by and heard the drunks cries for
help. He stopped and said, \"How did you get there? Were you born
there? Were you put there by your parents? Tell me about yourself,
it will alleviate your sense of loneliness.\" So the drunk talked
with him for an hour, then the psychiatrist had to leave, but he
said he'd be back next week. The drunk thanked him, but he was
still in his hole.
A priest came by the drunk called for help. The priest gave him a
Bible and said I'll say a prayer for you. He got down on his knees
and prayed for the drunk, then left. The drunk was very grateful,
he read the Bible, but he was still stuck in that hole.
A recovered alcoholic happened to be passing by.the drunk cried
out, \"Hey, help me, I'm stuck in this hole.\" Right away, the
recovered alcoholic jumped in the hole with him. The drunk said,
\"What are you doing? Now we're both stuck here.\" But the
recovered alcoholic said, \"It's okay, I've been here before, I
know the way out.\"
Love it :)
I like your story. But once an alcoholic you are always an alcoholic that is recovering. The only way to totally be recovered is to be dead.
New member: "HOW DO I BECOME AND OLD TIMER?"
Sponsor; "IT IS SIMPLE. DON'T DRINK. DON'T DIE!!!!"
A man asked his sponsor, "Hey George, how do I become an old timer?"
George said, "Don't drink. Don't die!!!
Be dead, not what my Big Book says.
“We of Alcoholics Anonymous are more than one hundred men and women who have recovered from a seemingly hopeless state of mind and body. To show other alcoholics precisely how we have recovered is the main purpose of this book.”
I joined them thirty four years ago and have remained symptom-free (sober) since. I could choose to end my recovery but it doesn't mean that I don't have it.
Recovering. Recovered. Words. Just words but I choose to be consistent with those written in the Big Book, that's all.
A topic continuously pontificated about. The confusion is based around an implied meaning. The Big Book never states we have recovered from Alcoholism or that we are recovered Alcoholics.
However, it does clearly state "we have recovered from a seemingly hopeless state of mind and body".
"To show other alcoholics precisely how we have recovered is the main purpose of this book" is referring to the process used, AKA 12 steps, to achieve a spiritual awaking as THE result of these steps
A detailed explanation of how "we have recovered from a seemingly hopeless state of mind and body".
By introducing oneself as a recovered alcoholic, implies past tense, finite, having an ending. To my knowledge, this is a disease with no cure, only a solution for daily living. Therefore we can never be recovered Alcoholics, but we can be recovered. (so long as it's understood that the rest of the sentence refers only to the state of mind, not the disease)
This is a program of Action One Day at a Time. Recovering implies action, in the moment, reminding us daily that we have to be vigilant.
I've always been told this is Alcoholism Not Alcoholwasim
I have seen far too many Alcoholics die or commit suicide because they felt they were recovered Alcoholics.
do you want to be in recovery or recovered? the recovery line of thought comes from treatment jargon. My big book says "recovered" at least 15 times. you can be in recovery, I have recovered from a hopeless state of mind and body. I will stay recovered as long as I do what's required to maintain my daily reprieve.
Actually, I take back what I said about recovery, in the forward to the second edition, it talks about whats vital to "premanent" recovery!
"I like your story. But once an alcoholic you are always an alcoholic that is recovering. The only way to totally be recovered is to be dead."
Totally false. Apparently you haven't read the Big Book, which says we are never cured but can recover.
Page XIII: "We of Alcoholics Anonymous are more than one hundred men and women who have RECOVERED from a seemingly hopeless state of mind and body."
Page XXV: "This man and over one hundred others appear to have RECOVERED."
The word is used on ten more pages in the first eleven chapters, I'll let you decide whether you want to find them or not.
There is no cure for the common cold. I have RECOVERED from more colds than I can count, but if I do certain things I can probably avoid catching another.
This story tells it all, newcomers as well as old timers should read this message.
Terrific tale. Thank you.
Excellent message. Thanks.
I spoke to my sponser about prescription medications. He said "As long as their prescribed for you by a doctor and you need them it's fine" I have several ailments for which medical marijuana is prescribed and I'm in a state where it's legal to procure. Is smoking the medicinal herb meaning I've gone "back out" there?
I was told be honest with your doctor and yourself. I would ask myself if I'm exaggerating my symptoms. As long as you're honest with yourself and your doctor. Are following doctor's orders not yours or anyone else's than you're acting in a sober manner. I wouldn't share your medical details at meetings or with anyone other than people who you trust and have your best interests at heart. My husband is 35 years sober and has several medical conditions that cause him a lot of pain and require pain meds. Too many people who have never had anything like this in their lives have too many opinions, none of them good.
I had a pal in AA. He visited a group very far away from his one home group. He shared that he had a mental illness and that his psychiatrist prescribed medication for it. He said that he was on this medication. Also he said that he was a practising Catholic and that he had a Jesuit priest as a Spiritual Director.
At the end of the meeting a total stranger called him aside and said to him, 'You are fooling yourself because you are chewing your booze, And by the way, you suffer from another disease called Roman catholocism.
I said to him, "Your relationship with your psychiatrist concerns only you, as does your practice of Roman catholcism.
There is great wisdom in the Preamble. It tells us what AA is about. It also tells us about and the topics that we exclude from our sharing at a meeting.
This poor man was upset by what he heard from a total stranger. The irony is simply this. The total stranger probably thought that he was giving the other man, good sound advice!
We had a friend who went off his psych meds because some fool told him he wasn't sober while taking them. He was drunk and then dead in a week because he could not deal with the horrible symptoms without medication.
On the other hand, I do need to be vigilant when Doc's prescribe for me. I do not accept prescriptions for anything with alcohol or narcotics. And some of them say "just take it as prescribed and you'll be fine," No, I won't be fine. My doc has to understand alcoholism and addiction or he would be dangerous to me.
If I had to try to live with horrible anxiety or pain, I would be in a tough spot. But I would not take the advice of someone who obviously had no training to deal with my medical problems.
And criticising your church? No!
I pray for the other people that might be given this terrible advice.
The young man spoke with great speed a diatribe of crictisms about people, places and things and of course AA.
He stopped for a breath and his observant sponsor humourously quipped, "I think that you are just another rebel without a pause!!!"
The young man laughed and asked, "Why did you say that?"
I was like that young man myself once upon a time, and I can still be to this day too!!!
As long as you don't abuse it your fine. However I couldn't use it it if the Doctor prescribed it for me because I'm multiple-addicted. This includes pills for mental ills. Experience taught me that if I have a problem that requires further help I take it, but if it cripples it's another excuse to use something to numb the pain aka escape from reality. However the best experience I have had was working thru these difficult times with a professional, sponsor, or my higher power. Right now I'm currently dealing with a lot of problems family and work. I found out today it's my attitude. I was told by my boss this morning, I broke down in tears, walked away, and accepted the truth. I may leave the job or I may not, but in the end it's what I do with my attitude. Remember to change the attitude into gratitude.
To thy own self be true!
What better place to start to build your recovery on than on rock bottom. EM
Yeah! it says rock bottom, not sponge bottom lol
My ROCK BOTTOM became my FOUNDATION STONE for my SOBER LIFE!!!
AA taught me to see things in another way. I now see my rock bottom and the foundatiMVjaLon stone of my new sober life.